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BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
February 01, 2010
The meeting of the Douglass Township Board of Supervisors was called to order at
7:30 P.M.
Attending were Chairman Tim Turner, Supervisor Fred Ziegler, Supervisor John
Stasik, Solicitor Charles Markofski, Engineer Bob Campbell, Pete Hiryak, Mike
Heydt, Chief Templin, and 29 residents.
Mr. Theil made an announcement that he will be taping the proceedings.
Mr. Turner led the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.
Mr. Theil made objections about some omitted statements made at the January 19th
Board of Supervisors meeting.
On motion by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Ziegler, the Board approved the minutes
of the January 19th, 2010 Board of Supervisor’s meeting. Ziegler-Aye,
Turner-Aye, Stasiki-Aye. Motion passed.
Mr. Bob Campbell presented the Engineer’s Report.
1. Weis Markets/Centro Properties – See Engineer’s and Solicitor’s Reports.
Conditional PaDot permit granted pending easement agreements for widening at
intersection of Rt73 and Montgomery Ave. List of Improvements has been
finalized.
2. BUI/Jordan Drive Subdivision – See Engineer’s and Solicitor’s Reports.
Conditionally approved at the September 15, 2008 meeting. Resolution approved at
October 6, 2008 meeting. Resubmission received October 21, 2008. Review letter
dated November 3, 2008.
3. Windemere Subdivision – See Engineer’s and Solicitor’s Reports. List of
improvements has been approved.
4. Hollenbach – Warehouse Expansion – See Engineer’s and Solicitor’s Reports.
Conditionally approved at the May 5, 2008 Supervisors meeting. Final plans and
financial security request have not been received.
5. Hallowell (Danny Jake) – See Engineer’s and Solicitor’s Reports. Received
latest plan revision dated September 2008 along with the list of improvements.
The List of Improvements has been finalized.
6. Zern Property – Developer prepared a presentation for the Planning Commission
on December 10, 2009.
Staff meeting on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 to review potential traffic issues.
7. AAA – Dunkin Donuts – See Engineer’s and Solicitor’s Reports. Site
construction is continuing.
Provided letter dated December 18, 2009 regarding guide rail along the back of
the lot near the drive-
thru.
8. Cobblestone Crossing – Phase III– Developer is continuing residential
building construction.
9. Hartford Retail – Giant (Douglass Town Center): Developer is going to be
providing a survey of County
Line Road to determine actual sight distances. Storm water and building
construction is on-going.
There have been reports that the traffic signal at the Giant goes into flash
mode and he will set up a
meeting with the signal installer to see if we can get this straightened out.
Mr. Brumwell asked what is the reason that there were bullards across Countyline
Road, Mr. Heydt and Mr. Campbell replied that the electric company was out there
working on the poles and placed safety cones around the area. Mr. Ziegler asked
Mr. Campbell how everything was coming along out at the Giant, Bob replied that
the biggest issue right now is the traffic signal, some adjustments need to be
made as with the site distance to make it safer. The site itself is coming along
very well the developer is pushing for an April completion date.
10. Smith Road Bridge – Received Permit on July 9, 2009. Latest plans have been
delivered to the
developer.
A motion was made to accept the Engineer’s Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr.
Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Stasik-Aye. Motion passed.
Mr. Markofski presented the Solicitor’s Report.
Mr. Markofski stated that he will only report on items being actively pursued
and reviewed.
1. Donnelly Tract/Dienno Tract – Open Space – The acquisition of the subject
open space tracts will be thoroughly investigated for available funding.
2. Summerhill Subdivision – On December 4, 2009 our Township Manager, Peter J.
Hiryak, advised the Summer Hill Homeowners Association of their responsibility
for snow and ice removal from sidewalks located on their premises. The Township
received correspondence from Allen M. Mandelbaum, Esquire, attorney for Summer
Hill Homeowner’s Association. He advised that Summer Hill had conveyed the open
space back to Gambone Bros. Development Co., and, in so doing, no longer
maintained any legal obligation or other responsibility for the open space.
Correspondence dated January 29, 2010 was sent to Gambone Bros. Development Co.
advising the corporation to take some legal step to resolve the issue of who
should be holding legal title to these open space areas. It was made clear that
the Township would be, otherwise, required to proceed against the legal owner of
the premises.
3. Windemere – 131 Niantic Road – A final draft of the developer’s agreement
will be distributed
this week and finalized by the end of the month.
4. Attorney General Review of Douglass Township Ordinance No. 2009-02.
(Ordinance pertaining to notification of biosolid application) A letter of
representation will be
sent to the Attorney General’s Office advising that we await their response to
correspondence
from our former Solicitor dated December 20, 2009. Mr. Markofski will send a
letter to the
Attorney Generals Office indicating that he is now the Solicitor for the
Township.
5. Uniform Construction Code - We have received the new Uniform Construction
Code books
and find that no action is required to update our ordinance. Mr. Heydt has
reviewed the
information.
6. Parking Ordinance – This proposed ordinance will be submitted to the Planning
Agency for
final review on February 11, 2010.
Mr. Brumwell asked the Solicitor if any progress was made in getting any files
from Mr. Sager, Mr. Markofski replied that nothing has changed as of now. Mr.
Markofski stated that this is not an uncommon situation in other Municipalities
when a change in the Attorney occurs. Mr. Markofski at this point needs more
information as far as the Hunsicker Farm, Mr. Turner stated to let him know what
is needed and he will look into it.
A resident asked for a thumbnail sketch of the Hunsicker situation. The Manager
stated that the Hunsicker Farm is on Miller Road and basically he has applied to
the PADEP to put biosolids (treated sewage) on his property and he has been
permitted to do this, there has been some strong smells associated with it and
the residents in that area have a problem with it. The Township over a period of
years has attempted to appeal the permit, restrict the permit to alleviate the
problem, even if was only to give the residents some notice as to when biosolids
would be applied. Part of the problem is that the biosolids are stored on the
farm for a time until it can be applied to the fields. The Township attempted to
pass an Ordinance to restrict this application and the Ordinance is being
appealed saying that the Township can not restrict farming activities in an
agricultural area. Mr. Turner added that it first started as paunch manure
(stomach contents of slaughtered animals) from MOPAC that was being applied or
stored in the fields. The smells and bugs from this application was unbearable
to area residents and some schools. Mr. Markofski stated that he plans to find
out what objections the Attorney Generals Office has in reference to this
Ordinance, maybe some minor changes would suffice.
Mr. Theil noted that some of the developments were removed from the minutes and
he was told that it might have some impact on the 209 fees by removing them.
When the developer starts action again it will put them in a different category
– maybe that would be something to look at, Mr. Markofski stated that he will
certainly review this. Mr. Theil also stated that he found some information on
the website about Hunsicker Farm, how much is on the website, the Manager
replied that he is not quite sure how much info is on the website probably info
about the Nutrient Act but the general file is not on the website.
Mr. Wynne wondered, as far as the Summer Hill Open Space problem, if there was
some legal loophole with the open space that we should address so this does not
occur in future developments. Mr. Turner stated that we have covered as much as
we can cover, all parties have been contacted it can not fall back onto the
Townships responsibility. Mr. Markofski is waiting for a timely response from
the Gambone Brothers Co., if they do not respond he will be calling them to find
out if they are pursuing a solution.
Mr. Link stated that as far as the Hunsicker Farm problem why can’t we enforce
the Clean Air Act, Mr. Turner stated that it would again fall under PADEP, the
Manager stated that this area is also part of the Agricultural Secure Area which
limits enforcement of certain things.
A motion was made to accept the Solicitor’s Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by
Mr. Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Stasik-Aye. Motion passed.
Mike Heydt presented the Highway Report.
1. Salted Roads.
2. Cleaned trucks after salting roads.
3. Cut up trees from windstorms.
4. Filled potholes on dirt roads.
5. Fixed potholes.
6. Worked on the gutter at Grosser and Cross roads.
7. Trimmed trees on North Hills Road..
8. Worked on monitoring wells.
9. Fixed bearings on the snowplow wheels.
A motion was made to accept the Highway Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr.
Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Stasik-Aye. Motion passed.
Pete Hiryak reviewed the Manager’s Report.
1. The Manager reviewed the upcoming meetings as follows: Staff Meeting,
Wednesday, February 3rd @ 10:00am, Danny Jake (Zern Tract)-Traffic Issues.
Planning Agency Meeting Thursday, February 11th @ 7:00pm. Board of Supervisors
Meeting Tuesday, February 16th @ 7:30pm. Zoning Hearing Board Tuesday, February
23rd @ 7pm – Reorganization and T-Mobile Cell Phone Tower on Twin Ponds Golf
Course.
2. Correspondence – BMMA – 2009 Financial Report – Copies to Board of
Supervisors and Treasurer. Redding vs. Douglass Township – Singned Agreement and
Release Received. The insurance settlement was $250,000.00. Letter from Retired
Police Officer Thanhauser – Re: Health Benefits for Retirees for review by Board
of Supervisors. Pennsylvania Open Records Office – Letter stating a response is
due by February 8th for Open Records request, Mr. Theil requested to review the
recording from the December 10th, 2009 Planning Agency Meeting and a copy of Mr.
Stasiks health insurance request -Mr. Turner stated that Mr. Stasiks letter was
not an issue nor is the Planning Agency tape unless he hears an objection, no
objection was made, Mr. Turner instructed the Manager to make the letter and the
tape available for Mr. Theil to review. The Manager then asked Mr. Theil to
contact him as to a time when he is available to review the tape. The Board
asked Mr. Theil why he was interested in reviewing the tape and did he have a
specific reason to do so, Mr. Theil replied that it was his constitutional right
to listen to a tape of a public meeting.
The Manager stated that a lot of time has been spent on reviewing past
information for some requests that go back many years, it is not a quick process
it takes time and sometimes we seek legal counsel for advice on some requests
which can push it out to the 30 day limit which is procedure. Mr. Theil stated
that the Open Records Board in Harrisburg is looking into establishing fees to
recoup costs for Townships researching files.
Mr. Mickletz asked the Manager if the Township has a height limit as far as
antennaes, the Manager replied that he thinks that it is 50 feet but the Cell
Phone Tower is well above that. Mr. Mickletz asked why the Township dropped the
e-mail addresses on the website, the Manager replied that he was not aware of
that and he will check into it.
3. Open Space/Revitalization Committees. As far as the appointments to the Open
Space Committee the Board tabled these appointments at this time.
A motion was made by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Stasik to appoint Fred Ziegler
as the representative of the Board of Supervisors attending the Revitalization
Committee meetings. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Stasik-Aye. Motion passed.
A motion was made by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Ziegler to appoint Tom Wynne as
Chairman, John Sartor, Bill Zern, Tom Yarnall, Tim Miller, Scott Moyer to the
Revitalization Committee, along with two more people to be named at a later
date, the meetings will be scheduled with Tom Wynne and the Manager, and all
meetings will be here at the Township building. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Stasik-Aye.
Motion passed.
Public Comment
Ron Ebert commented that residents with concerns should attend Township meetings
to discuss these concerns, get them out in the open and finish it, not bring
dead issues up in the newspaper day after day. Mr. Theil stated that the letter
was sent 10 days before the meeting, the paper printed it when they got to it.
A resident commented that he thinks the Township should renegotiate the
insurance for the non-uniform employees. With the savings, the Township could
hire another Police Officer, the Manager replied that the insurance policies are
reviewed every year however, the Police make up two thirds of the insurance
puzzle, there are 10 Officers and 5 Retired Officers on the PC5 Plan. Mr. Turner
commented that the level of insurance (Independence Blue Cross Personal Choice
5) for the Police is under contract and cannot be renegotiated until the end of
that contract which is 2011 and as he stated at the last meeting going to
another insurance company would lower the level of coverage, but this will be
looked at before the October renewal date. Mr. Brumwell stated that fulltime
employees deserve that best coverage possible. Mr. Brumwell also stated his
concerns from the last meeting on the request of individual Police Officers
monthly statistics, this should not be a public report, Mr. Turner commented
that he is not looking for a quota system he just wants to see what is happening
on a monthly basis for the Supervisors review only. Mr. Carl Hiryak stated that
he is all for keeping the costs down however the fact is that we have very good
Township employees and we have morale to think about. I don’t think we should
interfere with the morale and dedication of our employees just to save a couple
of dollars. Mr. Link stated that non-uniform employees did not receive a raise
this year so at this point he does not feel that we should mess with their
health insurance, especially since we will be renegotiating the health insurance
for 2011. Mr. Turner concurred.
Mr. Theil mentioned about the excessive Solicitor fees at BMMA. The Supervisors
appoint members to various boards and committees and BMMA’s fiscal constraints
are very important responsibilities for the Board to consider. Mr. Turner
replied, that is to be discussed at a BMMA meeting not at a Douglass Township
meeting.
Old Business or New Business
Mr. John Ambrusch was not available tonight for an Emergency Operatons Plan
update, the Manager will contact him as to his availability for the next
meeting. The Manger stated that the Township has just been contacted that the
THP Property on Smith Road (Berwind II) will be going to Sheriff Sale on
February 24th, 2010 at 1:00pm at the Courthouse in Norristown. The property
consists of approximately 75 acres and the court judgment is for 5.7 million
with interest. Also the Manager stated to Mr. Pritchard that he will discuss a
meeting date with him. Mr. Turner stated to the Manager that to make it clear
THP owes the Township nothing so we do not have to file anything, the Manager
stated that they had submitted a sketch plan but had paid all of their bills so
they owe the Township nothing.
A motion was made by Mr. Ziegler to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Mr. Turner.
Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Stasik-Aye. Motion passed.
The next Board of Supervisor’s meeting will be held on Tuesday, February 16th,
2010 at 7:30 pm.
Respectfully submitted by,
Marcy Meitzler
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