BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
                                                                      October 06, 2008

The meeting of the Douglass Township Board of Supervisors was called to order at 7:30 P.M.
Attending were Chairman Tim Turner, Supervisor Fred Ziegler and Supervisor Gregory Lignelli; Solicitor Larry Sager, Robert Campbell, Pete Hiryak, Mike Heydt, Andy Duncan, and 25 residents.

Mr. Turner led the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.

On motion by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Lignelli, the Board approved the minutes of the September 15, 2008 Board of Supervisor’s meeting. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Mr. Robert Campbell presented the Engineer’s Report.

1. Hartford Retail – Giant: Revised plans were received on both September 2 and October 2 and will both be reviewed at the October 16th Planning Agency meeting. Mr. Robert McNelly and Mike Jeitner were present to represent Giant. Mr. McNelly commented on the waiver list that was submitted but Mr. Sager indicated that this matter needs to be discussed at the Planning Agency first before being discussed with the Board. Mr. Sager commented that the minutes should reflect that the Township has received approval from the Regional Planning Commission on the Overlay. As a result, there has been an advertisement for the October 20th meeting for the Zoning Ordinance and we are publicly announcing this matter stated Mr. Sager. Mr. Sager asked for any public comment at this point and none was given. Mr. McNelly stated that he has one issue with respect to McMahon’s review ltr dated October 1, 2008. #7 – Current layout encourages vehicular travel along the area between the stores and the parking field. McMahon suggests the parking lot layout would be a safer design if the layout encouraged motorists to access the parking spaces from a “ring road” that feed the parking space area on the opposite side. This would minimize the number of pedestrian/vehicular conflicts. The applicant has added speed humps to the front drive aisle to address our concern. We believe that speed humps are not the most appropriate solution to the issue of the significant vehicular/pedestrian conflicts that are proposed to be created by this development. Mr. McNelly stated the design proposed is the standard design for Giant. If we implemented the design proposed by McMahon, Giant would lose parking spaces as well as hinder the ability for emergency vehicles to access the parking lot area if needed. Mr. Campbell stated that the fire lane would have to stay, it can’t be removed. Mr. Campbell recommended that Mr. McNelly bring this matter up at the next Planning Agency meeting. Mr. Sager suggested that McMahon be invited to the October 16, 2008 Planning Agency meeting to discuss this with Giant. Pete stated that he will take care of this matter.
2. Weis Market/Centro Properties – Resubmission of Financial Security request for Weis was received today and is being reviewed. Still waiting on Financial Security request from Atlantic Traffic for the Centro intersection improvement work. McMahon provided an updated review as well dated October 1, 2008. Atlantic Traffic also submitted an HOP Application as well per Mr. Campbell. Mr. Sager and Mr. Campbell recommended that the Township have a staff meeting with Centro, Atlantic Traffic and McMahon to move this matter along. A motion was made to have Pete set up a staff meeting with Centro, Atlantic Traffic and McMahon by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.
3. Sealstrip Building Addition – Resolution adopted at September 2, 2008 Board of Supervisors meeting.
4. BUI/Jordan Drive Subdivision – Conditionally approved at the September 15, 2008 meeting. Draft Resolution prepared. Mr. Sager clarified that Mr. Campbell has reviewed this and it meets with his approval. Mr. Campbell stated that he had one comment with respect to #5 – Limits of the wetlands. Mr. Campbell stated that the applicant has informed him that they have performed the work in question and there is a letter stating that there are no wetlands on the site that need to be addressed. Mr. Campbell stated that he hasn’t received this letter to date. Mr. Sager stated that he believes that the resolution as proposed can be accepted and obviously subject to if we receive the written letter with respect to #5 it would be redacted from the resolution at the appropriate time. A motion was made to approve the Preliminary Subdivision and Conditional Final Plan Resolution by Mr. Ziegler, seconded by Mr. Turner. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.
5. Windemere Subdivision – Received the Planning Module from the Developer. We reviewed the Planning Module and have added the necessary information as required for Municipal approval. Signatures required by the Planning Agency and Zoning Officer. Requested that the Developer provide the final plans and stormwater report with the approved revisions prior to returning the executed Planning Module.
6. Hollenbach – Warehouse Expansion – Conditionally approved at the May 5, 2008 Board of Supervisors meeting. Final plans and financial security request have not been received per Mr. Campbell.
7. AAA – Dunkin Donuts – Plans have been satisfactorily submitted, with the exception of a final signed, sealed set being delivered. Project currently under construction. Financial security request has not been provided. E & S Controls were improved and appear to be properly maintained. Continuing with building construction. Mr. Sager questioned the financial security. Mr. Sager stated that we have a bond. Mr. Sager stated that he will get a copy to Mr. Campbell for his records.
8. Cobblestone Crossing – Phase 3 – Installed curb and sub grade. Continuing construction this week. Additional work needs to be done on the roads to get them up to satisfactory condition commented Mr. Campbell.
9. Smith Road Bridge – Del Val Soils is working with PaDEP to get final permit approval. Resubmitted week of August 25, 2008 and awaiting final approval.
10. Berks Mont Camping Center – Installing on-site stormwater facilities. Installing underground retention basins.
11. Middle Creek Road Paving Project – Mr. Campbell stated that at the request of Mr. Hiryak, he went out and reviewed the Middle Creek Road work. Some of the issues included the depth of paving that was installed as far as the leveling course and the edge of the road (shoulder) and how that would be addressed. Mr. Campbell stated that he met with a couple of the residents out there and discussed their concerns. Several comments were premature, since the Township personnel haven’t finished their work out there with respect to installing stone along the edge of the road which would both act to collect the stormwater, carry the stormwater along the edge of the road to the culverts that cross the road and also provide a safer area for cars that would tend to go off the edge of the road. There is a stable shoulder on the road that has been installed by the Township stated Mr. Campbell. As far as the depth of pavement, the situation was that the water was sheeting across the road and in order to alleviate this situation, one side of the road was brought up and a crown is now the middle of the road. Now the water comes off both sides and gets down along the edge of the road and this improves the stormwater drainage situation along that road stated Mr. Campbell. Mr. Ziegler asked Mr. Campbell if he went out himself and Mr. Campbell responded yes. Mr. Ziegler asked if there were any signs of crushed pipe and Mr. Campbell responded no, but there were several culverts that had been replaced.

Mr. Turner asked if Doug Brown or Mike checked the basins at Summerhill. Pete stated that the basins are the last item to be done and to his knowledge, these haven’t been done yet.

Mr. Ziegler asked if Scott Groff went out and checked the bridge on Buchert Road. Andy Duncan commented that Scott had that guide-rail line up to be repaired. Mr. Ziegler asked if Scott was coming tonight to the meeting and Pete stated that he was supposed to be present. Pete commented that he will check on this matter.

Mr. Sager suggested that while the Engineer was present that the Board should take care of Cobblestone Commons. Mr. Sager commented that Mr. McGrory, counsel for the developer, has made a suggestion as to there being a settlement of resolution of the litigation. Mr. Sager stated that instead of having an executive session, he feels the matter needs to be discussed because of the stormwater issues. Mr. Sager suggested, with the directive of the Board, that we have a meeting with the developer and as many Supervisors that want to be present since it is a litigation matter to discuss the settlement as proposed subjected to the developer paying the costs up-to-date and paying for all the fees involved with having the staff meeting since the developer has instigated and initiated the meeting. The above motion was made by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Lignelli. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Mr. Pritchard commented on the section of road where Congo meets Middle Creek. Mr. Pritchard commented that when you go down Congo Road and make a right on Middle Creek Road, you can see where they butted the two roads together. The way that the asphalt was laid in there, once it gets hit with a snowplow, it will all pull up. Mr. Campbell stated that what has been done on that portion of the road is that a leveling course was placed and it basically is temporary in order to improve the drainage on the road. This is not the final paving stated Mr. Campbell. There will be an overlay done on that portion of the road stated Mr. Campbell. With the cost of asphalt going up 50% between the time the project was bid and the time the construction was done two months later and this cut the project significantly commented Mr. Campbell.

A motion was made to accept the Engineer’s Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Mr. Sager presented the Solicitor’s Report.

1. S-2 Route 100 Corridor Study – Master Plan – Mr. Sager commented that we are looking at scheduling another meeting sometime in late October or early November.
2. S-3 Superior Water – (Rate Increase) – Mr. Sager commented that just before the scheduled meeting and hearing dates of October 1 and 2, there was a settlement of resolution. The settlement resolved the issue concerning Superior’s supplying water to the 23 residents on East Philadelphia Avenue and Rhoads Avenue in Gilbertsville. The water will be supplied by an infrastructure funded by the DEP. The Boyertown Water Authority will supply the water. Further, the resolution was satisfactory to the community and the Township. The tariff issue has shown movement favorable to the rate payers with respect to reduction of the tariff stated Mr. Sager. Superior Water is going to have a Chief Operating Officer, which they have not had in the past which will, in the long run, benefit the community and the operation of Superior Water commented Mr. Sager.
3 S-9 Renninger Subdivision – New Hanover Township – Nothing further to report per Mike’s Report.
4 S-10 Danny Jake – Mr. Sager stated that he just received documents from Mr. Mullin with respect to our development agreement and we are taking care of those issues.
5 S-12 Donnelly Tract – Open Space – Mr. Sager stated that the Township is waiting for the next round of grants with respect to this matter. Pete Hiryak commented that he had sent to the Open Space Board the information regarding Donnelly. The Open Space Board met at the end of September. We sent a letter expressing our interest in the Donnelly Tract to be on the agenda next year when the next round of funding would occur. We also sent them copies of the agreement and the appraisal value of the property. By all accounts, everything went very well and they are very interested in the Donnelly Tract stated Pete. Pete stated that in that meeting, he also sent the finalization of the Libor Tract and what we are doing with the property and by all accounts that satisfied the requirements for what we are going to do with the structure on the property.
6 S-13 Dienno Tract (Kane Core, Inc.) – Hallowell Road – Mr. Sager stated that this matter, if we can’t come to a resolution, we would want to deal with when the grants are open. Mr. Sager stated that with respect to Avante Apartments, Mr. Turner had suggested that he would make a contribution and the Township had mentioned that the would consider a fee-in-lieu of for transfer of development rights for density consideration. This concept has been generally considered by both the Planning Agency and the Board and both have been receptive to the concept subject to working out the details stated Mr. Sager. Apparently, Mr. Dienno is also willing to deal with that kind of arrangement to try to move the project along subject to getting further monies and grants in the future. Supervisor Ziegler has suggested that it may be wise for the parties (Mr. Turner, his representative, Mr. Karver, Mr. Dienno and representatives from the Township to meet to discuss this matter to see if it is a viable plan. Mr. Sager commented that it appears to him that it is a no lose situation and can possibly achieve something that would be for the betterment of the community. A motion was made to set up a meeting between all the parties by Mr. Ziegler, seconded by Mr. Turner. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.
7 S-15 Backenstose (Ritter Est.) v. Douglass Township – Nothing to report at this point in time.
8 S-18 Cobblestone Crossing – Smith Road Bridge –See Engineer’s Report.
9 S-33 Redding v. Douglass Twp. – We understand that the case is listed for the trial term beginning on October 27, 2008.
10 S-52 Summerhill Open Space – See Engineer’s Report.
11 S-55 Water Contamination – VOC and TCE problem – See S-3 (Superior Water) Mr. Sager stated that he notes that the Chairman received a letter from Representative Mensch who has been very helpful in getting us to a point in resolving this matter. Mr. Sager proceeded to read the letter and stated that it needs to be included as part of the minutes. Ms. Gilroy will attach the letter to the final minutes. A motion was made to authorize the Manager to advertise the Ordinance by Mr. Ziegler, seconded by Mr. Turner. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed. See attached letter.
12 S-72 Gilbertsville Fire Co. No. 1 – Mr. Sager commented that the Mr. Haddad is not here tonight because he is celebrating his 50th Wedding Anniversary. Mr. Haddad had assured to Mr. Sager that everything has been put in place and things are progressing.
13 S-75 Boyertown Sanitary Disposal Landfill – The Manager and Treasurer are working on this matter.
14 S-77 Shellenberger – Berks Mont Camping Center – See Engineer’s Report.
15 S-78 Cobblestone Commons – See Engineer’s Report.
16 S-85 Robert L. Logan, Jr. – Scheduled for a hearing on October 28, 2008 at 1pm with District Justice Gadzicki.
17 S-112 Dunkin Donuts –See Engineer’s Report.
17 S-114 Little Faces Child Care/S-ORD-26 Swamp Pike Overlay – Nothing further to report at this time.
18 S-120 Weis Market – Town Plaza Shopping Center –See Engineer’s Report.
19 S-123 – Bart Golf Subdivision (New Hanover) – No movement per Mike’s report.
20 S-124 – Wynstone Subdivision (New Hanover) – No movement per Mike’s report.
21 S-133 Hunsicker Farm – We reported that we have been preparing for the pre hearing issues and the hearing scheduled for Wednesday, December 3, 2008 at 10:00am. Meanwhile, per our request, the Manager has notified surrounding property owners of the status and the hearing so that if they desire to be present or be a part of this, they can so communicate with the Solicitor or staff. Pete stated that to date, he has heard from 2 property owners.
22 S-135 Avante Apartments – See S-13.
23 S-136 Bonanza – Hartford Retail – Giant – Stetler – See Engineer’s Report.
24 S-140 Hollenbach Construction – 166 Holly Road, 21,120 sq. ft. addition to existing warehouse – See Engineer’s Report.
25 S-144 Libor Property – Open Space-475 Congo Rd., Gilbertsville – See S-12.
26 S-148 Mann Tract Subdivision (New Hanover Township) – No movement per Mike’s Report.
27 S-150 Windemere – 131 Niantic Road – See Engineer’s Report.
28 S-152 Sealstrip Corporation – 103 Industrial Drive – Mr. Sager stated that the resolution was approved at the last meeting.
29 S-155 BUI/Jordan Drive Minor Subdivision – See Engineer’s Report.
30 Hopkinson Property – Mr. Sager stated that he received a fax at the end of the day today from Mr. Karver with respect to the Hopkinson property. Mr. Karver communicates that the 13 unit townhouse subdivision apparently is not viable and that the Hopkinsons' have been talking to Richard and Brian Quigley of Quigley Bus Service. Richard and Brian Quigley would like to establish a bus terminal for school bus parking at that location. Mr. Sager stated that it would be his sense that this matter should be put in front of the Planning Agency for their review with a proviso that Mr. Karver should be told that he should formally request that the matter be reviewed by the Planning Agency and a deposit of $500 for the costs for an escrow would be in order so that the matter can be reviewed. The above motion was made by Mr. Ziegler, seconded by Mr. Turner. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Mr. Tom Yarnall commented on the money involved with respect to the Donnelly Tract and with respect to how bad the economy is at this time. Mr. Sager stated that the proposal on the Township’s side is zero. As to whether Montgomery County will want to put the money up, that is another story stated Mr. Sager. The agreement is subject to a grant from Montgomery County and is subject to the Township not putting in any money.

Mr. Ed Reitz commented on the transfer of development rights. Mr. Reitz asked if we, as a Township, need an ordinance in place before we can do anything with respect to this matter. Mr. Sager commented that this is not technically a TDR, it is a fee-in-lieu-of.
A motion was made to accept the Solicitor’s Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Andy Duncan and Mike Heydt reviewed the 2009 Trash Bag Bids as follows:

Resourceful Bag & Tag

1.25 mil for 1 year .216 cents a bag…..$35,640.00 a year
1.50 mil for 1 year .294 cents a bag…..$48,510.00 a year
2.00 mil for 1 year .321 cents a bag…..$52,965.00 a year

All American Poly

1.25 mil for 1 year .166 cents a bag….$27,390.00 a year
3 years .182 cents a bag….$30,030.00 a year
5 years .199 cents a bag….$32,835.00 a year
1.50 mil for 1 year .180 cents a bag….$29,700.00 a year
3 years .198 cents a bag….$32,670.00 a year
5 years .217 cents a bag….$35,805.00 a year
2.00 mil for 1 year .223 cents a bag….$36,795.00 a year
3 years .245 cents a bag…$40,425.00 a year
5 years .269 cents a bag…$44,385.00 a year

Central Poly Corporation

1.25 mil for 1 year .230 cents a bag…,.$37,950.00 a year
3 years .2925 cents a bag….$48,262.50 a year
5 years .31275 cents a bag...$51,603.75 a year
1.50 mil for 1 year .250 cents a bag…...$41,250.00 a year
3 years .320 cents a bag……$52,800.00 a year
5 years .420 cents a bag……$69,300.00 a year
2.00 mil for 1 year .300 cents a bag……$49,500.00 a year
3 years .390 cents a bag……$64,350.00 a year
5 years .510 cents a bag……$84,150.00 a year

Phoenix Recycling

1.50 mil for 1 year .1896 cents a bag (twist tie)…$31,284.00 a year
1 year .1896 cents a bag (drawstring with equal capacity)…$31,284.00 a year
3 year .1896 cents a bag (escalator/de-escalator)…$31,284.00 a year
5 year .1896 cents a bag (escalator/de-escalator)…$31,284.00 a year
1.75 mil for 1 year .209 cents a bag (twist tie)…$34,485.00 a year
1 year .209 cents a bag (drawstring with equal capacity)…$34,485.00 a year
3 years .209 cents a bag (escalator/de-escalator)…$34,485.00 a year
5 years .209 cents a bag (escalator/de-escalator)…$34,485.00 a year










E Poly Star - Current Vendor

1.25 mil for 1 year .16148 cents a bag…$26,644.20 a year
3 years .20872 cents a bag…$34,438.80 a year
5 years .20872 cents a bag…$34,438.80 a year
1.50 mil for 1 year .18868 cents a bag…$31,132.20 a year
3 years .245 cents a bag…...$40,425.00 a year
5 years .245 cents a bag…..$40,425.00 a year
2.00 mil for 1 year .24972 cents a bag..$41,203.80 a year
3 years .32424 cents a bag..$53,499.60 a year
5 years .32424 cents a bag..$53,499.60 a year

Andy asked for time to review each bid and that he would make his decision as to what he felt would be the best bid and submit his recommendations to the Board at the next meeting. Mr. Sager questioned what the acceptance date was that was in the bid request and Andy responded that there wasn’t an acceptance date included. It was stated that the acceptance is usually done within 30 days.

A motion was made to accept the Recycling Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Lignelli. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Mike Heydt presented the Highway Report.

1. Finished filling in the edges of Middle Creek Road.
2. Blacktopped a swale on Swinehart Road.
3. We started fixing culverts in Thrush Road development.
4. Patched potholes as needed.
5. Started brush cutting along the roads with the boom mower.
6. We will begin to roadside mow and weedwack the roads and bridges one last time.

Mr. Ziegler asked why Scott Groff wasn’t present tonight for the meeting and Mike responded that Scott called a last minute situation arise and had to make other arrangements.

A motion was made to accept the Highway Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Lignelli. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Mike Heydt presented the Zoning Report.

1. Mike reviewed the statistics for the month of September as follows: New Homes (0), Large Permits (6), Total Cost ($173,400.00), Fee’s Collected ($1,477.90), Small Permits (11), Fee’s Collected ($919.25), Driveway Permits (0), and Demolition Permits (0). OP’s for the month of September (1), Inspections (45). Mike stated that he has been spending allot of time in Cobblestone with respect to tree complaints etc.
2. S-9 Renninger Subdivision – No movement to date.
3. S-123 Bart Golf Subdivision – No movement to date.
4. S-124 Wynstone Subdivision – No movement to date.
5. S-148 Mann Tract Subdivision – No movement to date.

A motion was made to accept the Zoning Report by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Lignelli. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.






Pete Hiryak presented the Manager’s Report.

1. Pete went over the schedule of upcoming meetings as follows: Planning Agency Meeting on Thursday, October 16th @ 7:00pm, Board of Supervisors Meeting on Monday, October 20th @ 7:30pm, Zoning Hearing Board Hearings on Tuesday, October 28th @ 7:00pm – Side Yard Setback Variance, Main Street Revitalization on Thursday, November 6th @ 7:00pm to be held at the Gilbertsville Fire Company (downstairs banquet hall). This is a public meeting and will be advertised per Pete.
2. Pete stated that the Board has two resignations to accept: Police Secretary Jennifer Hashagen and Gilbertsville Fire Police Carl Dey. Mr. Ziegler asked if Jennifer is still living in the house and the response was yes, she has paid her rent up through the end of October. Pete stated that Ms. Hashagen has indicated that she intends to move, but that a firm date was not given to date. The Board agreed that a further discussion needs to take place with respect to the leasing of this house. Mr. Ziegler commented that he feels that if the Board continues to lease this house that it should look at leasing it to a family instead of single individuals. Mr. Sager stated that the Manager get further information with respect to this matter by the next meeting. Mr. Ziegler asked what the rent is on this house and Pete responded $700 a month. A motion was made to accept both Ms. Hashagen’s and Mr. Dey’s resignations by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.
3. Police Department Budget Amendments – Pete commented on some budget amendments that the Chief Templin has requested for gas and the accreditation process. Pete stated that he would rather table this matter until the Treasurer is back in the office and Pete can talk with her.

Mr. Ziegler stated that he had a phone call from Mr. John Griesemer. Mr. Griesemer wanted a chance to submit a bid for the auditing with respect to the Township. Pete stated that the problem is that Mr. Griesemer was not listed on the CPA listing. Mr. Ziegler commented that Mr. Griesemer had indicated to him that he is a CPA. Pete stated that he and Cindy O’Donnell went on the Pennsylvania Institute of Certified Public Accountants for who we sent out proposals too. Pete stated that he and Ms. O’Donnell looked for CPAs who have experience in government audits and tax collector audits and Mr. Griesemer’s name was not on that listing. We did find Reinhart & Company and some other CPAs in the Reading and Pottstown areas and we did send out proposals. Mr. Sager commented that he will be transparent with respect to this matter and proceeded to state that he knows Mr. Griesemer, and he clearly is not a Certified Public Accountant, but he does do accounting work for some Townships.

Mr. Bernie Sell commented on the audit. Mr. Sell asked if the auditor that we use now, did they bid on this project. Pete stated that this is professional in nature, and that means that we don’t have to bid. We looked at proposals that were submitted and checked references to see what other Townships have used their services etc. Reinhart & Company has been doing the audit for 3 or 4 years, they did not bid. Pete stated that this is the first time that proposals were put out. Mr. Sager stated that initially, the Township did put it out for proposal that first year. A request of services was made stated Mr. Sager. Mr. Sell questioned the $10,000 cap and Mr. Sager and Pete both indicated that the amount doesn’t come into play when it’s a professional service.

Mr. Ziegler asked Pete for a copy of the Burn Ordinance and application. Pete commented that he would get that to Mr. Ziegler shortly.

A motion was made to accept the Manager’s Report by Mr. Turner and seconded by Mr. Ziegler. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

Public Comment

Mr. Pritchard commented on what Mr. Campbell had said about the overlay on Middle Creek Road and he was saying that the price of the asphalt went up 50%, but two weeks ago Ms. O’Donnell stated that the Township had saved money. Mr. Turner stated that we saved money over what they projected. Mr. Pritchard asked when the overlay will be done on this road. Mr. Turner stated that the overlay will be finished off next year. It was commented that the asphalt fluctuates with the price of oil as well as with the dollar.

Mr. Ziegler asked how Andy made out with getting help from Joe Lutz from the Montgomery County Cleaning Services. Pete stated that the Township supplied Mr. Lutz with a schedule of the leaf collection and an idea of how many people we would like to have. We made a point of communicating that we would like to have people everyday. Mr. Lutz commented that he would check, but to date hasn’t gotten back with Pete. Mr. Ziegler stated that he would call Mr. Lutz tomorrow. Mr. Ziegler commented that Mr. Lutz did commit to having people to help Andy out on Saturdays. Andy stated that he has kids coming up from Moe Saylor’s office as well and we need to try and get a schedule so that we don’t have too much help any one day. We need more help during the week vs. the weekend commented Andy. It was decided that a decision should be made by October 20th on what help is needed for the leaf collection program.

Mr. Carl Hiryak commented on the trash bags bids. Mr. Hiryak stated that based on past experience, don’t look for lighter bags…they don’t hold up, they tear very easily. Andy commented that they are going to try and stay with the mil that they currently use. The bags are made to hold 40lbs stated Mike. Andy commented that the bag bid is most likely going to come down to price because the bag cost has jumped in price. Mr. Turchanik agreed with Mr. Hiryak. Mr. Turchanik recommended sticking with whatever mil we are currently using, because he hasn’t had any problems.

Mr. Al Turchanik asked the Board if they can find it in their heart to pave the western part of Rick Road. Mr. Turner stated that he doesn’t believe it’s in the budget for this year. Mr. Ziegler commented that this brings up another matter. Mr. Ziegler commented that he would like to have a site visit in both the Spring and Fall where the Supervisors look over the roads and put together a schedule indicating which roads need work and in what order the roads get worked on. Mr. Turchanik requested that Rick Road be put at the top of the schedule.

Old Business/New Business – Nothing

A motion was made by Mr. Lignelli to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Mr. Turner. Ziegler-Aye, Turner-Aye, Lignelli-Aye. Motion passed.

The next Board of Supervisor’s meeting will be held on Monday, October 20, 2008 at 7:30 pm.

Respectfully submitted by,

Stacy Gilroy
 

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